King’s Indian Defense (E60): win rates at club level
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6, playing as black. Data from 979 Lichess blitz games at 1600-1800.
The position
The idea
Black lets White build a big classical center on purpose, planning to finish development behind a solid kingside fianchetto and then undermine that center later with e5 or c5. The resulting middlegames are famously opposite-wing battles: White pushes for space and play on the queenside while Black attacks the king with a pawn storm and piece play on the other side of the board.
How it scores at your rating
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| Rating band | Games | White / draw / Black | Score for black | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1400-1600 | 582 | Not enough games at this band yet. | |||
| 1600-1800 | 979 | Not enough games at this band yet. | |||
| 1800-2000 | 1,332 | 50.3%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 47.6 to 53.0 percent, 1,332 games. / 5.5%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 4.3 to 6.7 percent, 1,332 games. / 44.2%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 41.5 to 46.9 percent, 1,332 games. | 47.0%Score for black: 95 percent confidence interval 44.4 to 49.6 percent, 1,332 games. | ||
| 2000+ | 1,851 | 48.5%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 46.2 to 50.8 percent, 1,851 games. / 7.0%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 5.8 to 8.2 percent, 1,851 games. / 44.6%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 42.3 to 46.9 percent, 1,851 games. | 48.1%Score for black: 95 percent confidence interval 45.9 to 50.3 percent, 1,851 games. | ||
What white actually plays next
Top replies at 1600-1800:
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| Move | Games | Played | Win / draw / loss |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nc3 | 743 | 75.9% | 47.9%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 44.3 to 51.5 percent, 743 games. / 3.1%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 2.1 to 4.6 percent, 743 games. / 49.0%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 45.4 to 52.6 percent, 743 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously. |
| Nf3 | 106 | 10.8% | 50.9%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 41.6 to 60.3 percent, 106 games. / 9.4%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 5.2 to 16.5 percent, 106 games. / 39.6%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 30.8 to 49.1 percent, 106 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously. |
| e3 | 51 | 5.2% | 47.1%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 34.1 to 60.5 percent, 51 games. / 0.0%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 0.0 to 7.0 percent, 51 games. / 52.9%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 39.5 to 65.9 percent, 51 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously. |
| g3 | 21 | 2.1% | 71.4%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 50.0 to 86.2 percent, 21 games. / 4.8%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 0.8 to 22.7 percent, 21 games. / 23.8%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 10.6 to 45.1 percent, 21 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously. |
| Bf4 | 19 | 1.9% | 36.8%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 19.1 to 59.0 percent, 19 games. / 5.3%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 0.9 to 24.6 percent, 19 games. / 57.9%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 36.3 to 76.9 percent, 19 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously. |
| Bg5 | 19 | 1.9% | 47.4%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 27.3 to 68.3 percent, 19 games. / 10.5%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 2.9 to 31.4 percent, 19 games. / 42.1%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 23.1 to 63.7 percent, 19 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously. |
Common mistakes at 1600-1800
No move at this band is both common and clearly low-scoring, controlling for rating gap. Players at this rating aren’t making an obvious mistake here.
Model games
Real games from the Lichess masters database.
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| White | Black | Result | Year | Game |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Carlsen (2881) | Grischuk (2792) | 1-0 | 2014 | View game |
| Carlsen (2881) | Grischuk (2792) | ½-½ | 2014 | View game |
| Carlsen (2881) | Caruana (2791) | ½-½ | 2014 | View game |
| Ding Liren (2806) | Carlsen (2864) | ½-½ | 2022 | View game |
| Ding Liren (2799) | Carlsen (2865) | ½-½ | 2022 | View game |
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