Italian Game (C50): win rates at club level

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4, playing as white. Data from 6,665 Lichess blitz games at 1600-1800.

The position

Position after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4. Open this line on Lichess → · Italian Game on Lichess

The idea

The bishop on c4 aims straight at f7, the weak point closest to Black’s king before castling, while White races to finish development and claim the center with d3 or d4. How directly White presses that target splits the opening into two personalities: the quiet Giuoco Piano builds slowly behind c3 and d4, while the Two Knights Defense invites sharp tactics as early as move four if Black’s pieces stray too far from defense.

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Win/draw/loss rate by rating band
Rating bandGamesWhite / draw / BlackScore for white
1400-1600 7,440 White/draw/black: 50.8% / 3.8% / 45.4% 50.8%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 49.7 to 51.9 percent, 7,440 games. / 3.8%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 3.4 to 4.2 percent, 7,440 games. / 45.4%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 44.3 to 46.5 percent, 7,440 games. 52.7%Score for white: 95 percent confidence interval 51.6 to 53.8 percent, 7,440 games.
1600-1800 6,665 White/draw/black: 49.2% / 3.6% / 47.2% 49.2%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 48.0 to 50.4 percent, 6,665 games. / 3.6%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 3.1 to 4.1 percent, 6,665 games. / 47.2%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 46.0 to 48.4 percent, 6,665 games. 51.0%Score for white: 95 percent confidence interval 49.8 to 52.2 percent, 6,665 games.
1800-2000 4,500 White/draw/black: 48.9% / 4.6% / 46.6% 48.9%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 47.4 to 50.4 percent, 4,500 games. / 4.6%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 4.0 to 5.2 percent, 4,500 games. / 46.6%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 45.1 to 48.1 percent, 4,500 games. 51.1%Score for white: 95 percent confidence interval 49.7 to 52.5 percent, 4,500 games.
2000+ 2,391 White/draw/black: 48.7% / 5.0% / 46.3% 48.7%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 46.7 to 50.7 percent, 2,391 games. / 5.0%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 4.1 to 5.9 percent, 2,391 games. / 46.3%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 44.3 to 48.3 percent, 2,391 games. 51.2%Score for white: 95 percent confidence interval 49.2 to 53.2 percent, 2,391 games.

What black actually plays next

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Most common replies at 1600-1800
MoveGamesPlayedWin / draw / loss
Bc5 2,292 34.4% Bc5 win/draw/loss 45.5%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 43.5 to 47.6 percent, 2,292 games. / 3.8%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 3.1 to 4.7 percent, 2,292 games. / 50.7%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 48.6 to 52.7 percent, 2,292 games.
Nf6 2,063 31.0% Nf6 win/draw/loss 47.3%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 45.1 to 49.4 percent, 2,063 games. / 3.3%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 2.6 to 4.2 percent, 2,063 games. / 49.4%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 47.3 to 51.6 percent, 2,063 games.
h6 739 11.1% h6 win/draw/loss 48.8%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 45.3 to 52.5 percent, 739 games. / 4.1%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 2.9 to 5.7 percent, 739 games. / 47.1%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 43.5 to 50.7 percent, 739 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously.
d6 568 8.5% d6 win/draw/loss 45.6%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 41.5 to 49.7 percent, 568 games. / 4.2%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 2.9 to 6.2 percent, 568 games. / 50.2%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 46.1 to 54.3 percent, 568 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously.
Be7 336 5.0% Be7 win/draw/loss 50.3%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 45.0 to 55.6 percent, 336 games. / 5.1%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 3.2 to 8.0 percent, 336 games. / 44.6%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 39.4 to 50.0 percent, 336 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously.
f5 289 4.3% f5 win/draw/loss 55.0%Win rate: 95 percent confidence interval 49.3 to 60.6 percent, 289 games. / 1.4%Draw rate: 95 percent confidence interval 0.5 to 3.5 percent, 289 games. / 43.6%Loss rate: 95 percent confidence interval 38.0 to 49.4 percent, 289 games.Wide interval, small sample: treat this number cautiously.

Common mistakes at 1600-1800

No move at this band is both common and clearly low-scoring, controlling for rating gap. Players at this rating aren’t making an obvious mistake here.

Model games

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Master games in this line
WhiteBlackResultYearGame
Caruana (2835) Carlsen (2863) 0-1 2020 View game
Kramnik (2812) Carlsen (2855) 0-1 2016 View game
Caruana (2804) Carlsen (2855) 1-0 2016 View game
Carlsen (2882) So (2776) 1-0 2019 View game
Ding (2791) Carlsen (2863) 0-1 2020 View game

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